{"id":28,"date":"2018-08-22T04:11:48","date_gmt":"2018-08-22T04:11:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/koshanin.com\/blog\/?p=28"},"modified":"2026-01-06T04:12:53","modified_gmt":"2026-01-06T04:12:53","slug":"odd-meters-and-time-signatures-in-music-part-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/koshanin.com\/blog\/2018\/08\/22\/odd-meters-and-time-signatures-in-music-part-3\/","title":{"rendered":"ODD METERS AND TIME SIGNATURES IN MUSIC &#8211; Part 3"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-size: xx-large;\"><b>Part 3: Identifying Odd Meters<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p><i>(Previous essay: \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/koshanin.com\/blog\/2018\/08\/05\/odd-meters-and-time-signatures-in-music-part-2\/\" rel=\"noopener\">Part 2: Classification of Odd Meters<\/a>\u201d)<\/i><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>When it comes to identifying odd meters, the difference between <i>simple<\/i> and <i>complex odd meters<\/i> becomes obvious. Identifying the <i>simple odd meters<\/i> is quite easy &#8211; all we need to do is count the beats along the music and we will quickly determine the actual meter.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Commonly used <i>simple odd<\/i><i> meters<\/i> include 3\/4, 5\/4, 7\/4 and a simple form of a 9\/8 meter. The very reason why they create a steady pulse without a feeling of \u201c<i>skipping<\/i>\u201d is the fact that all beats in <i>simple odd meters<\/i> are <i>uniformly subdivided<\/i>. In other words, all their subdivisions have either 2 or 3 eight notes each, but not both.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>With the <i>complex odd meters<\/i> things get a little bit more tricky. In order to identify a specific meter we have to listen to the music closely and first try to identify the <i><b>main downbeats<\/b><\/i> \u2013 the points at which each <i>bar<\/i> starts. Usually the rhythm section (drums, percussion or even bass guitar) would accentuate these downbeats, but the melody would also often start or end at these same points.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Because an overwhelming amount of music has been written in 4\/4, when we hear a new piece of music we instinctively expect an even pulse, due to what I would call a \u201c4\/4 brain conditioning\u201d and we would naturally count the quarter-note beats as: (1, 2, 3, 4), (1, 2, 3, 4) and so on. With odd meters, however, we would eventually encounter a \u201c<i>skip<\/i>\u201d in the pulse and it would feel as if the music is suddenly moving forward before our next expected count. Whenever this perceived \u201c<i>skip<\/i>\u201d happens while listening to the music \u2013 it becomes a clear indication that we are hearing an odd meter.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>We would then have to count the beats in each bar by tapping with a foot or hand along the music to determine how many taps precede the <i>skip<\/i> which is where the perceived \u201c<i>missing<\/i>\u201d note occurs.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>For example, if we counted 4 beats before the <i>skip<\/i> occurs that means that the last counted beat was shorter, as the music seemingly proceeded prematurely into the next bar. That would give us three full beats (of one quarter note each) and the last incomplete beat would have to be a single eight-note. Mathematically formulated that would look like this:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px;\">(3 x 1\/4) + (1 x 1\/8)<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">which is the same as:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px;\">(6 x 1\/8) + 1\/8 = <b>7\/8<\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">and as a result, that gives us a 7\/8 meter.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>If we counted 5 beats (before the <i>skip<\/i>) that would give us a 9\/8 meter:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px;\">(4 x 1\/4) + (1 x 1\/8) = (8 x 1\/8) + 1\/8 = <b>9\/8<\/b><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>The procedure above assumes that we are counting the quarter notes, however depending on the actual rhythm and tempo of the music &#8211; we might end up counting the eight notes, so we could potentially count the correct number of beats right away.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>While counting the beats is a good staring point for identifying a meter, trying to get the feel for an odd meter by thinking of it as an incomplete even meter (with one extra or one missing beat) would prove to be a dead end. By looking at a 7\/8 meter as a 4\/4 meter with a missing beat at the end, or as a 6\/8 meter with an extra beat at the end, we would have to keep counting from 1 to 7 over each bar throughout the whole song just to stay afloat, without truly locking in to the rhythm.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>The rhythmic sense of our brain is challenged by the irregular pulse of odd meters and a natural desire to identify the meter arises from a need to understand the rhythm and melody. Without this understanding, either intellectual or intuitive, the music and rhythm would remain to our ears as just an irregular, meaningless succession of sounds and beats.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>The melody and rhythm of any music piece rely on each other and are usually interlocked. They closely follow and support each other, while in general the melodic part plays a key role and the rhythmic part assumes a supporting role. As explained previously (in \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/koshanin.com\/blog\/2018\/07\/23\/odd-meters-and-time-signatures-in-music-part-1\/\" rel=\"noopener\"><i>Part 1: Introduction to Odd Meters<\/i><\/a>\u201d), the rhythmic base of music is constructed with recurring time segments \u2013 bars, but the melodic part also consists of short fragments which, put together, make a complete musical statement. The phrasing, accentuation and length of these short fragments are matched by the rhythm so that the rhythm section in a music group will naturally accentuate or emphasize the starting beats of these fragments. These starting beats are called \u201c<i>downbeats<\/i>\u201d and they signify the beginning of each subdivision or grouping of beats. These downbeats receive the most rhythmic emphasis, with the first beat of the meter &#8211; <i>the main downbeat<\/i> being the most important of all.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>We can conclude that the secret of odd meters lies in their uneven, irregular subdivision which creates a variety of different rhythmic \u201c<i>feels<\/i>\u201d of the same nominal meter, while each specific \u201c<i>feel<\/i>\u201d is determined by the placement of the odd-numbered segment within a meter.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>We have now established that the first and necessary step to understanding any odd meter is to identify it by counting its beats. Once we have the number of the beats we can proceed to determine the meter\u2019s specific rhythmic subdivision which will allow us to fully lock in to its uneven pulse and thus make it feel \u2018natural\u2019 to our ears.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Here are a few examples of songs to demonstrate some of the odd meters and to practice the counting of beats:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>\u201c<i><b>Clouds<\/b><\/i>\u201d &#8211; an original composition written in <b>3\/4<\/b>:<\/p>\n<p><iframe style=\"border: 0; width: 100%; height: 120px;\" src=\"https:\/\/bandcamp.com\/EmbeddedPlayer\/album=553956947\/size=large\/bgcol=ffffff\/linkcol=0687f5\/tracklist=false\/artwork=small\/track=3958017597\/transparent=true\/\" seamless=\"\"><a href=\"http:\/\/koshanin.bandcamp.com\/album\/over-seven-seas\">Over Seven Seas by Koshanin<\/a><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>(\u201c<em><a href=\"https:\/\/koshanin.bandcamp.com\/track\/clouds\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Clouds<\/strong><\/a><\/em>\u201d from my solo piano album \u201c<strong><em><a href=\"https:\/\/koshanin.bandcamp.com\/album\/over-seven-seas\" rel=\"noopener\">Over Seven Seas<\/a><\/em><\/strong>\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>\u201c<i><b>Ajde Jano<\/b><\/i>\u201d &#8211; my solo piano arrangement of the traditional Serbian folk song from the Kosovo &amp; Metohija region &#8211; in <b>7\/8<\/b>:<\/p>\n<p><iframe style=\"border: 0; width: 100%; height: 120px;\" src=\"https:\/\/bandcamp.com\/EmbeddedPlayer\/album=553956947\/size=large\/bgcol=ffffff\/linkcol=0687f5\/tracklist=false\/artwork=small\/track=1313148018\/transparent=true\/\" seamless=\"\"><a href=\"http:\/\/koshanin.bandcamp.com\/album\/over-seven-seas\">Over Seven Seas by Koshanin<\/a><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>(\u201c<strong><em><a href=\"https:\/\/koshanin.bandcamp.com\/track\/ajde-jano\" rel=\"noopener\">Ajde Jano<\/a><\/em><\/strong>\u201d from my solo piano album \u201c<em><a href=\"https:\/\/koshanin.bandcamp.com\/album\/over-seven-seas\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Over Seven Seas<\/strong><\/a><\/em>\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>\u201c<i><b>Dragonfly <\/b><\/i><i><b>[432Hz Edition]<\/b><\/i>\u201d &#8211; an original composition in <b>9\/8<\/b>:<\/p>\n<p><iframe style=\"border: 0; width: 100%; height: 120px;\" src=\"https:\/\/bandcamp.com\/EmbeddedPlayer\/album=3584478372\/size=large\/bgcol=ffffff\/linkcol=0687f5\/tracklist=false\/artwork=small\/track=2281553024\/transparent=true\/\" seamless=\"\"><a href=\"http:\/\/koshanin.bandcamp.com\/album\/under-the-sacred-tree-432hz-edition\">Under The Sacred Tree [432Hz Edition] by Koshanin<\/a><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>(\u201c<strong><em><a href=\"https:\/\/koshanin.bandcamp.com\/track\/dragonfly-432hz-edition\" rel=\"noopener\">Dragonfly<\/a><\/em><\/strong>\u201d from my solo piano album \u201c<strong><em><a href=\"https:\/\/koshanin.bandcamp.com\/album\/under-the-sacred-tree-432hz-edition\" rel=\"noopener\">Under the Sacred Tree [432Hz Edition]<\/a><\/em><\/strong>\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><i>(Next: \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/koshanin.com\/blog\/2018\/09\/18\/odd-meters-and-time-signatures-in-music-part-4\/\" rel=\"noopener\">Part 4: Feeling (and Understanding) the Odd Meters<\/a>\u201d)<\/i><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *<br \/>\nIf you enjoyed this essay please show your support and Subscribe to my <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@koshanin\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">YouTube Channel<\/a>, follow my <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/Koshanin\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">FaceBook Page<\/a> or visit my <a href=\"https:\/\/koshanin.bandcamp.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Online Store<\/a> for music downloads, CDs albums, sheet music and more. Thank you!<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Copyright 2018 Koshanin. All rights reserved. Any copying, reproduction, or use, in part or full, without prior consent of the author is prohibited.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Part 3: Identifying Odd Meters (Previous essay: \u201cPart 2: Classification of Odd Meters\u201d) &nbsp; &nbsp; When it comes to identifying odd meters, the difference between simple and complex odd meters becomes obvious. Identifying the simple odd meters is quite easy &#8211; all we need to do is count the beats along the music and we&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/koshanin.com\/blog\/2018\/08\/22\/odd-meters-and-time-signatures-in-music-part-3\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">ODD METERS AND TIME SIGNATURES IN MUSIC &#8211; Part 3<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-28","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-music-theory","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/koshanin.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/28","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/koshanin.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/koshanin.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/koshanin.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/koshanin.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=28"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"https:\/\/koshanin.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/28\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":278,"href":"https:\/\/koshanin.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/28\/revisions\/278"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/koshanin.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=28"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/koshanin.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=28"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/koshanin.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=28"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}